tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25635043.post8018187473846640074..comments2024-02-27T10:27:03.841-05:00Comments on The Double Edged Sword: At What Point Does One Receive the Holy Spirit? Part 2Joel Spencerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02474230869182287895noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25635043.post-12139183008096715972010-02-05T07:50:35.960-05:002010-02-05T07:50:35.960-05:00Nina: Thanks for sharing your personal example. I ...<b>Nina:</b> Thanks for sharing your personal example. I too believe there will always be greater "filling" possible, as the Word seems to clearly reference. To assume we should just always stay the same is simply not what the LORD called His Body to. <br /><br />You said, "I never knew that I believed this about the holy spirit until I started writing just now.(LOL) You have that affect on people." This statement brings such a smile to my face because this is where I think we should always be. Figuring out what we believe and why we believe, regarding eternal matters. Thanks again for always being a part of each blog that's posted here.Joel Spencerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02474230869182287895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25635043.post-4639082742563639612010-02-04T13:10:14.873-05:002010-02-04T13:10:14.873-05:00SORRY FOR THE LONG COMMENT. BUT ITS YOUR FAULT!SHO...SORRY FOR THE LONG COMMENT. BUT ITS YOUR FAULT!SHOULDNT HAVE STARTED ME TO THINKING!! WHEN WOMEN THINK>>>WE TALK ABOUT IT! LOLNinapoethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02261153613707778441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25635043.post-89197070949270996422010-02-04T13:08:37.177-05:002010-02-04T13:08:37.177-05:00I agree.I never really saw it that way. Well I nev...I agree.I never really saw it that way. Well I never really thought about it period.LOL I always felt like either you have it, or you dont. But as long as we are on the topic(smile)I believe that there are different levels of it, just as I believe that there are different measures of faith. However, I never knew that I believed this about the holy spirit until I started writing just now.(LOL) You have that affect on people. Growing up, my mother always told me that I received the Holy Spirit at a very young age. But I never remembered it or really believed it. She would often use this fact(which by the way meant absolutely nothing to me)to try to get me to conform to a certain standard. I remember hearing this often in my post teen years when I went through my acting like a fool and raising as much hell as I possibly could stage.(to put it lightly) However, it was not until later when I "received" the holy spirit that it was evident to me. I was alone crying out to the Lord and it came without the laying of hands, or ministers, or alters.It could not be mistaken. This time the HolySpirt served as a comforter and a guide. It would be a couple of years later, after living with the holy spirit for a while that I finally decided to be baptized. I had put it off for years because I had a grave fear of water.(DONT JUDGE ME< LOL)The Holy spirit had been operating through me and I had begun ministry(in the biblical sense, not the turn your collar around so that man can see that you are in charge sense)I got baptized in a river in Virginia.I know that was not the most logical thing to do for a person who had a fear of drowning, but this is what I was led to do. It was a windy day and the rivers were roaring and the tides washed a shore. When I went under and came back up. I was overcome by the Holy Spirit like I had never been before.I could not describe it and it was humbling, yet frigtening as I tried to keep composer.This was a new thing.I was amongst a group of 'by the book' "CHRISTIAN" people who were not fans of the Holy Spirit. who talked real proper and had to have a philisophical explanation for everything. As I tried to make my way out of the water, my legs turned to Jelly and I almost swallowed my tongue trying to keep it from moving by the spirit. One of the guys who rode in the car with me ran out into the water to try to help me because everyone else thought that there was something "wrong". They were asking me was I o.k and did I need help. They were probably really concerned because I could not respond.It was not a loud or 'churchy" episode, it was not a holy dance,and what happened was very unfamiliar to me, yet I knew it was the Holy Spirit. I tried to maintain composer and seperate myself as I hurried to my car, I was later feeling emberrassed.I had to get someone else to drive for a while on the trip back home because I could not collect myself. It took about 2 days for me to fully recover. This was not the same Holy Spirit that I had before, this was new!!! Now,after reading this, I find myself questioning, was my mother in fact correct. Was it laying dormant? Or was it in fact a fresh anointing?Was my latter experience an episode or was it a new thing?I believe that it was all of the above. These are all of the things that I now know that I believe(LOL):I believe that just as with all things there can be an increase. I believe that it can also lie dormant.I believe that this is a part of growth. I also believe that it can lie dormant and be reactivated, which is the same as having a fresh or new out pour.I also believe that anything that does not grow is dead. If something dies. And is then born again. Wasn't it yet and still born....again, though it had lived before.However, I imagine that there would always be the question, "did it ever die?" As with this, the same as with the Holy Spirit. It is the 'life 'that really matters.Ninapoethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02261153613707778441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25635043.post-32602487198001895582010-02-04T07:16:20.953-05:002010-02-04T07:16:20.953-05:00Valerie: Well the Holy Spirit has surely been give...<b>Valerie:</b> Well the Holy Spirit has surely been given an undesirable definition in the eyes of many. On the one hand, He gives license for men to get out of control in their flesh and on the other, He's "something" you just don't talk about because we sure can't have unruliness about now can we. We need to properly (biblically) see what His role is - to draw people to God and empower the Church to actually do what She is destined for. (Which is what Part 3 addresses.)Joel Spencerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02474230869182287895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25635043.post-37520379045963499652010-02-03T17:53:11.063-05:002010-02-03T17:53:11.063-05:00Joel you said "Does one receive the Holy Spir...Joel you said "Does one receive the Holy Spirit at salvation or does one become 'filled' with the Holy Spirit by the laying on of hands at a later time?" is the response, "yes" and "yes". <br /><br />Amen brother. Tragic as it is, at salvation I had no idea of the work of the Holy Spirit apart from convicting of sin. I had never been taught any more. That came many years later through lots of searching His Word. Keep preaching it Joel, God has given you a wonderful gift to write these things.Valeriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00497030310714465235noreply@blogger.com